Comments: update on Inclusive Church

Is this the same Dr Idris Jones who along with his fellow Scottish bishops would not darken the door of their clergy's celebrations of a Civil Partnership.

Having abjured such attendance we must assume that this would include their own children if they happened to be a cleric.

Is it the same Idris Jones who has foresworn ordaining to the episcopate any openly gay cleric despite their valid election? And then to have the affrontery to describe this cruel discrimination as "gracious restraint"?

And is this the celebrant of an INCLUSIVE Church Eucharist? These are the actions expected of a Patron of an inclusive group?

Allow me to practice genuine gracious restraint and not type out what I think .........

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Monday, 18 May 2009 at 11:13pm BST

Martin Reynolds. Perhaps really true Inclusivity welcomes even those who themselves may have already compromised their own proclamation of what true inclusivity is all about. There are plenty of clerics - even in high office - whose ministry may be compromised by double-entendre in their revealed attitude towards women and the LBGT community. What we really need is advocates who are uncompromising. Only then will the Gospel be able to be openly proclaimed to ALL.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 20 May 2009 at 1:21am BST

Oh no, Martin, it is worse than you think. Scottish Bishops certainly turn up to civil partnership celebrations - photos on blogs and facebook pages tell us that. What they refuse to do is turn up if there is anyone threatening to pray.

Which seems rather odd behaviour for Christian leaders.

Posted by Kelvin Holdsworth at Wednesday, 20 May 2009 at 2:53pm BST

As you say Kelvin - even worse than I thought .............

Posted by Martin Reynolds at Friday, 22 May 2009 at 8:09pm BST
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