Comments: CofE bishops in support of FCA

At the last FCA/GAFCon meeting there were quite a number of bishops present.

I don't think that for all of them their presence there on the day necessarily meant support for the direction the organisation was/is going...

The same may be true for some present this time.

Posted by Alastair Cutting at Friday, 3 July 2009 at 10:32pm BST

In any case, what we have here are the usual suspects and one or two others (Birmingham, Dorchester)

Posted by Merseymike at Friday, 3 July 2009 at 11:20pm BST

Dorchester was one of George Carey's chief aides. No surprise here.

Posted by Robert McCloskey at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 12:16am BST

Among those CofE bishops who have pestered TEC the past few years, I miss the name of Scott-Joynt from this list? (I forget his bishopric) Am I right?

Posted by JCF at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 6:44am BST

Many perhaps, but we have heard most of the names before. Nothing to see, move!

Posted by Göran Koch-Swahne at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 8:46am BST

May I thank Alastair Cutting for his wise words. As one of those involved in designing the Lambeth Conference in 2008 I always took Archbishop Rowan's advice leading up to it to keep dialogue flowing - even when you have major differences with your fellow Christians and it is in that spirit that I am going on Monday

Posted by colin fletcher at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 9:56am BST

The difficulty with any attendance at such meetings is not the attendance, for which there can be many motivations, but how the "attendance" will be marketed. In the US, for example, ACNA may well inflate its actual support with numbers like "700 congregations" But when looked at closely, a "congregation" may be 15 people. The simple number of attendees here may be marketed as "strong support" when, in fact, attendees were there for the sole purpose of continuing the "listening process" etc. The real motivation something very other than how it will be portrayed. I don't know a way around this other than the above comment where an attendee makes clear his or her intent. I do believe that the organizers of the FCA will use the pure numbers present to bolster their credibility. Statistics lie and they can lie with such authority.

Posted by Emily H at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 12:38pm BST

Thank you Bp Colin for providing that information. It's very helpful. I wonder if the same applies to any other names.

JCF yes the Bishop of Winchester's name is absent from this list.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 1:28pm BST

Sorry JCF but the Bishop of Winchester's name has now been added to the list :-(

This is a change on the AM website from the list emailed previously.

Posted by Simon Sarmiento at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 10:26pm BST

Is it not troubling that in all this ones fails to discern any love for Anglicanism? It appears that this is a group who are part of the Establishment because it gives them power (see Lord Acton). Can any of these people pick up Hooker and say, "Ah, yes, that's it!"? It seems more likely that these are the people that Hooker was writing against. Of course they did prevail & after Cromwell cut off the king's head, he drive the Anglicans from the Establishment. Will the Crown try to stop them this time?

Posted by Prior Aelred at Saturday, 4 July 2009 at 11:16pm BST

Scott-Joynt is a very moral man! He helped introduce divorce and re-marriage into the Church of England.

Posted by Robert Ian Williams at Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 7:02am BST

I understand Bp Henry Scriven, Asst Oxford and Irish Bps Ken Clarke and Harold Miller are also slated to attend

Posted by David D Wilson at Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 11:56am BST

Would a gay Conference have one bishop from the C of E or is the only boat rocker the Dean of Southwark, who is just not bishop material under Rowan?

Is anyone prepared to agree with my analysis?

The appointments under Rowan have all been moderate evangelicals. he has done more than Anglican mainstream, GAFCON or FCA to stem the gay tide.

Posted by Robert Ian Williams at Sunday, 5 July 2009 at 8:49pm BST

Oh for heaven's sake, both Chichester Diocese bishops have signed, no doubt the elect third would do the same. How can the bishops be so out of step with their diocese?

Posted by Richard Ashby at Monday, 6 July 2009 at 10:30am BST

The appearance of the Bishop of Dorchester on such a list should come as no surprise. He states that he follows ++Rowan's advice to keeping talk to those with whom one has major differences. There are those who suspect that his was one of the voices to which ++Rowan listened when he withdrew his support for Jeffrey John. The dialogue between +Dorchester and ++Cantuar may have affected the actions of both - always to the disadvantage of an honest inclusive gospel.

Posted by Commentator at Tuesday, 7 July 2009 at 4:08pm BST
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