Comments: support for the seven bishops

"....In support of the (7) bishops, we commit ourselves to the five non-episcopal requests listed in their report of September 7, 2009.....

(5). We will seek to build ministry relationships with dioceses and congregations in other provinces of the Anglican Communion..."
- Statement of 'Communion Partner Rectors' -

A fairly innocuous statement really; except, perhaps, for the underlying threat contained in item (5) of the 'non-episcopal requests' !! ! whatever that may mean. (How can requests made by a group of bishops be referred to in this way?)

Is this statement a sign of ongoing rebellion on the part of an ACI-stimulated coterie, when or if TEC decides not to sign up to the Covenant? And what sort of collegial relationships will these rectors elect to make with 'congregations and dioceses of other provinces'?. And would it be allowable - if they were still bound by fealty to TEC? Perhaps they need to be challenged on this

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 15 September 2009 at 10:10am BST

Same old yadah, yadah, yadah.

Posted by Kurt at Tuesday, 15 September 2009 at 3:57pm BST

Hmmm, seems like for the conservative Anglicans at least, being in first track community with Canterbury (post-covenant signing of course) will translate into being clearly antigay, period. That is how our 'mind of the communion' has been read, and surely how being in the new fangled coveant communion will be?

I think all the antigay stuff has to get, right out into the open, a developmental stage. Only by being overtly antigay and in the process, doing some damage that you might later be able to perceive in retrospect, will offer any Anglican metanoia possibilities, that listening half of the otherwise antigay Lambeth resolution.

Rowan Williams is daft if he think that sort of anti gay stuff changes in an orderly, locked steps fashion. Even locally in a single parish, let along globally.

I do wish we could grow by study and discernment and listening; but the change is often not all that possible via these vehicles. Again, just look at RW. He studied, discerned, listened - and even wrote about how he'd changed his mind; but it makes no difference to his leadership for first track antigay church life.

Growing out of being antigay is the sort of long term change that getting off drugs involves for dependent users. You have to grasp emotionally-cognitively that the piety buzz you have been giving yourself has taken its toll; and that continuing to buzz on antigay juice will keep doing the same (by now familiar) damage. Some change, some do not.

Posted by drdanfee at Tuesday, 15 September 2009 at 6:57pm BST

"The undersigned Communion Partner Rectors [and] associate Clergy commend and support the initiative taken by the Communion Partner bishops in meeting with the Archbishop of Canterbury on September 1, 2009 in order to discuss and clarify the present circumstances of The Episcopal Church, as well as his understanding of what entities might be eligible to sign and adopt the Anglican Communion Covenant." - Communion Partners

From the above, where the ACI-affiliated Rectors pledge their fealty to both TEC and the Covenant, it will be very important as to whether the emerging draft of the Covenant is such that TEC is able and willing to become a signatory.

The hint here, is that if TEC finds itself unable to sign up to the Covenant, the 'Communion Partners' will transfer their allegiance to the Covenant - unless their relationship to TEC, as their provincial Church, forbids this.

To have made such a declaration in advance of the new draft of the Covenant would seem provocative, to say the least. However, there is still time for the re-drafting of the Covenant to attempt to accommodate what TEC and like-minded provincial bodies might require - for their participation.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Wednesday, 16 September 2009 at 11:30pm BST
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