Comments: Bishop of London writes about General Synod

Good letter (though I disagree w/ +London's vote in favor of the AB's amendment).

Posted by JCF at Wednesday, 14 July 2010 at 5:33am BST

Whenever anyone (especially a bishop) sidles up to me and says, 'let me tell you what actually happened' I know what sort of falsifications and spin to expect. No change here.

Posted by junius at Wednesday, 14 July 2010 at 7:50am BST

Canterbury, York, London, Winchester. Durham in his final days, so just the quartet. One day, quite soon, generation change will sweep away the cobwebs and bring some of the fifteen "minority" bishops - them and a woman bishop or ten - to the upper level of a hierarchy now clogged with old blood. Then, finally, we'll see the same concern for the women in Holy Orders - and for the gays in Holy Orders - that the "Rt Revd and Rt Hon Richard Chartres KCVO DD FSA" and his fellows feel for "the minority who on theological and biblical grounds continue to resist the change".

Posted by Lapinbizarre at Wednesday, 14 July 2010 at 10:43am BST

Ah some fine episcopal leadership at last - clarity, honesty, process. And now attention turns to the Code of Practice, where the real debate will remain for the next 18 months.

Prayers for the C of E and for the gifts the Holy Spirit may be proclaiming through it.

Posted by MrsBarlow at Wednesday, 14 July 2010 at 12:18pm BST

Funny that, but those who support the full inclusion of all God’s children also based their desire to change on theological and biblical grounds. That is not now, nor has it ever been, the issue.

The issue is, was, and always will be how one approaches, reads, and lives the gospel: those who proclaim a plain, clear reading (although making myriad exceptions to the Levitical code and the troublesome statements attributed to Paul) to bolster their own prejudices and those who hold the words up to the light of today and seek a living God’s inspiration in understanding them, rejecting outright that which is scientifically impossible, outright cruel and inhuman, and downright silly.

I know that this paints with a broad brush but it comes down to these differences, like it or not, polite or not. And the two sides, which lived together for many, many years in relative peace, are now completely at odds and unlikely to come back together again.

Although the proponents of full inclusion and equality for all in the light of God’s love have bent over backward for several decades now to accommodate the other side, the other side will accept nothing less than having their own way in all things at this point, lest they cry “we are being driven out!” and “we are unwelcome!”

It is sad, it is unChrisian, and it seems to be inevitable.

Posted by Priscilla Cardinale at Wednesday, 14 July 2010 at 5:40pm BST

Priscilla. "having their own way' would be not to have women priests or bishops at all. I am confused by your comments. Opponents as far as I am aware, accept that others wish to have women ordained, even though this is contrary to tradition and scripture in their view. Isn't it your position that wants to have things your way?

Posted by Neil at Thursday, 15 July 2010 at 12:12am BST
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