Comments: Two bishops write about TEC polity

Bishop Lawrence says in so many words: Save yo' confedit moneh boyz, the South shall rahz agin'!

I think many already regret consenting to this man's election as Bishop of South Carolina.

Posted by Deacon Charlie Perrin at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 5:32pm BST

If only Mark Lawrence had stuck with 'being a lay reader'.

Yet, with his blending of psalms, conservation writing, and his own creative imagination, and feeling for the PB he certainly spins a good yarn.

Posted by Laurence Roberts at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 5:43pm BST

Looking from the outside in; This newly-ordered bishop (Mark Lawrence) would seem to be the one who is swimming against the tide of prophetic Anglicanism in North America. If he surmised all this while yet un-bishoped, why did he bother struggling to get nominated?

Crying 'foul' against one's own fellow bishops is hardly the Godly way of episcope. And what danger will he himself be doing to the soul of the Episcopal Church while swinging the axe against the episcopal leadership in TEC? Surely this is the time for his impeachment?

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 7:34pm BST

Same old same old from S.C. And I do hope those who consented are thinking sackcloth and ashes.

Posted by Cynthia Gilliatt at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 8:41pm BST

Mark Lawrence seems to serve himself and forget the many glbt Anglicans and their struggle for dignity in the Christian community. I find very little love in his words. Hypocrisy is a constant issue with people who like to exclude others. Mark Lawrence is one of those hypocrites and his attacks on the Presiding Bishop are both misplaced and ignorant.

Posted by Chris Smith at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 9:10pm BST

Should anyone be surprised that Lawrence is now attempting to destroy TEC? Did anyone really believe he and the other snakes in SC would not weasel their way out of their half-baked lies about adhering to the worship and doctrine of TEC?

Posted by pete at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 9:35pm BST

I suspect that Lawrence is contemplating his own next bully moves, especially if somehow the global communion does not clearly and swiftly police/punish KJS and TEC for existing, as dirt, as danger?

Stay tuned. Lawrence is far from done with stirring up trouble and strife and ill will, aimed at anybody who dares to disagree with his closed and sacred conservative religious understanding of things.

His current preferred Status Quo hermeneutic is consistent with an earlier one, insofar as all of the readily identified difficulties mainly involve what is wrong with abolitionists; not slavers?

Posted by drdanfee at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 9:36pm BST

(x)Mark Lawrence has been taking an ax to TEC's Catholic order since his DioSanJoaquin days, and now *he* is a "conservationist"? O_o Give me a break! (And God bless TEC!)

Posted by JCF at Friday, 15 October 2010 at 9:36pm BST

A few words from those of us who opposed consenting to Lawrence's consecration: We told you so.

Posted by JPM at Saturday, 16 October 2010 at 2:54pm BST

Mark Lawrence represents the type of thinking that is now most visible as the right wing "Tea Party" people. He is capable of much mischief and I have no doubt he will do every thing in his power to destroy rather than build the future Church. He never should have been consecrated a bishop. Deadly mistake but I do believe Lawrence will ultimately pay dearly for his destructive and un-Christ like behavior. He appears to be more "thug" than leader and his efforts will not be rewarded.

Posted by Chris Smith at Saturday, 16 October 2010 at 5:25pm BST

"Stay tuned. Lawrence is far from done with stirring up trouble and strife and ill will"

- drdanfee, on Friday -

The swiftness with which Dr. Dan's prohecy has been fulfilled will now be recognized in the move by Bp.Lawrence to co-opt the services of the one-time Bishop of Rochester, U.K., into his cabal of dissidents in South Carolina. What next, I wonder?
Will it be Dr. Nazir-Ali's challenge to the archi-espicopal throne of little Robbie Duncan? Watch this space.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Sunday, 17 October 2010 at 2:57am BST

Bishop Mathes has written a most reasonable response to the recent statements issuing from his fellow Bishop - of South Carolina - urging him not to go along the path of dissociation from TEC, in the belief that the Diocese of South Carolina has the legal right to go it alone.

For Bp. Lawrence to act on his false premise would be to slip into the schismatic fraternity of Bishop Bobbie Duncan and ACNA. It may not be seemly for TEC to execute summary discipline on this newly-consecrated bishop; but if he continues to flout the authority of TEC polity, than he risks the full penalty of Mr. Duncan's fate - deposition, no less. This will be a problem entirely of his own making.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Monday, 18 October 2010 at 10:20am BST
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