Comments: Church Commissioners Written Questions

None the wiser but far better informed.

Posted by Anthony Archer at Friday, 24 June 2011 at 6:53pm BST

I couldnt work out how many of the parishes that passed resolutions A and B many have passed A, how many B and how many both?

Posted by Perry Butler at Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 10:28am BST


I think it is safe to assume that no parish has passed resolution A but not B since this would mean that they would accept a woman incumbent but not allow her to preside at Holy Communion. So 802 parishes have passed both resolutions, and 164 have passed only resolution B.

Posted by Peter Owen at Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 12:59pm BST

Thanks Peter..I imagine those who have passed only B are most probably conservative evangelical who dont really mind who celebrates ( and like Sydney would be happy enough with a deacon presiding or even the lay reader!) but on headship grounds will only have a male incumbent.Quelle eglise! as dear old Cheslyn Jones used to say.

Posted by Perry Butler at Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 1:07pm BST

"I think it is safe to assume ..."

You may think so, but it isn't.

I know of two parishes who passed A, but not B. Presumably there are others.

Their line of thinking was that being incumbent was a purely administrative matter (and thus could in theory be done by anyone, including a lay person), but celebrating the Mass was a matter of Apostolic Order.

Posted by Sir Watkin at Saturday, 25 June 2011 at 10:26pm BST

A Venn diagram might help...

Posted by A J Barford at Monday, 27 June 2011 at 10:51am BST

How many parishes are actually under the PEV's? In Southwark and Rochester any C parishes are looked after by +Edmonton. Chichester and Blackburn presumably have no C parishes. Whitby looks after any in York, Pontefract in Wakefield, Plymouth in Exeter (and Truro?) I have heard Bishop Baker hopes to remain as Principal of Pusey House..which rather suggests one of his jobs is half time!.

Posted by Perry Butler at Tuesday, 28 June 2011 at 9:18am BST

That would be +Edmonton, Suffragan to London and not +Edmonton, the nice lady from Canada.

Posted by Malcolm French+ at Tuesday, 28 June 2011 at 11:42pm BST

"the nice lady from Canada" - Malcolm French

Yes, for the avoidance of confusion Malcolm!

Posted by A J Barford at Wednesday, 29 June 2011 at 7:50am BST

I just love life's little ironies.

Posted by Malcolm French+ at Wednesday, 29 June 2011 at 5:26pm BST

"I just love life's little ironies." - Malcolm French

His seat was vacant at yesterday's Sung Eucharist for Peter the Apostle.

Posted by A J Barford at Thursday, 30 June 2011 at 9:37am BST

I gather +Ebbsfleet is staying on as Principal of Pusey for another year....pretty rum business it seems to me. Not least as the present chair of the governors is a RC layman and former anglican bishop. What would Pusey / Charles Gore or Darwell Stone make of it? but i gather Mary Mags gets a lot more students these days!

Posted by perry Butler at Sunday, 3 July 2011 at 7:22pm BST
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