Comments: Archbishop of Canterbury to visit Kenya

He was unable to attend because of long-standing diary commitments, including the baptism of Prince George. He will, however, record a video greeting, which will be broadcast to delegates at the start of the conference.¨ Lambeth Palace

I hope his video is quite like the greeting and quite the same challenge he presented us with in Guatemala City recently...¨the Church will be destroyed if WE don't hold our differences in prayerful tension¨ (or something very close to that)

This ABC speaks bold truth/fact (and seems to bypass the codependent pampering of blatant ¨excluders¨ at Church).

Posted by Leonardo Ricardo at Monday, 7 October 2013 at 8:27pm BST

The Ex-Archbishop of Sydney (now Secretary of GFCA) is already trumpeting the fact that he sees this visitation by the Archbishop of Canterbury as a sign of his approval of the GAFCON Primates' meeting together at Nairobi.

Many of us who are not GAFCON afficionadoes will be most interested in what Archbishop Justin will have to say to these disaffected Primates, whose disapproval of the Church of England's move to accept the episcopal ordination of celibate Gay clergy was made known by Archbishop Eliud Wabukala the current Chair of GFCA.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 1:08am BST

It would be lovely if in his video message the ABC had the courage of the Dean of the National Cathedral in Washington:

if only to see the Gafcon pharisees in their gilt robes fall over in a dead faint.

Posted by Randal Oulton at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 3:57am BST

Archbishop Justin certainly seems to like living dangerously! The easy thing would have been to stay away.

On the one hand, if he praises GAFCON this will seem to encourage those who disparage much of his own church, and dishearten liberals who are still hoping to give him the benefit of the doubt. On the other hand, if he calls them to account for some of their actions, this could further increase division.

Perhaps, though, clear leadership is what is needed. The GAFCON "Primates" are certainly decisive people and must have found Archbishop Rowan completely incomprehensible as he tried to keep everyone together by saying nothing clearly.

Justin Welby appears to be a man committed to reconciliation, but also someone who is not prepared to be bullied and is prepared to call people's bluff.

Perhaps he can speak to the GAFCONites in the evangelical language they understand, while arguing that churches have to find their own way, and perhaps communicate the cultural shifts which he now seems to be aware of in the UK.

Does Archbishop Justin know the contents and likely reaction to the coming Pilling Report to the House of Bishops on sexuality? We shall see!

Posted by Iain Baxter at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 8:58am BST

The last Anglican clergyman to enter the lion's den was the famous Rector of Stiffkey - the Rev'd Harold Davidson. May God go with you - Archbishop Justin.

Posted by Father David at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 11:30am BST

Perhaps he will sign the Jerusalem Declaration. After all, with God all things are possible.

Posted by William Tighe at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 1:36pm BST

Maybe he could ask Gafcon to focus on the heterosexual abuse of Holy Matrimony, with no fault divorce and serial polygamy widespread, even in ACNA!

Posted by Robert Ian williams at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 4:16pm BST

"Perhaps he will sign the Jerusalem Declaration. After all, with God all things are possible."

Jerusalem Declaration, Art. 8. "...the unchangeable standard of Christian marriage between one man and one woman as the proper place for sexual intimacy and the basis of the family ... abstinence for those who are not married"

It's possible he could sign on to this, William. Just not (IMO) "with God".

Posted by JCF at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 8:02pm BST

As a known Reconciler, it may just be that the ABC will counsel the Gafcon Primates to attend to their own cultural concerns, allowing the rest of us to consider ours - while remaining in a sort of Unity that may be uneasy, but not impossible.

Posted by Father Ron Smith at Tuesday, 8 October 2013 at 11:25pm BST

Father David. Didn't the Vicar of Stiffkey get eaten by the lion1

Posted by Joseph Golightly at Wednesday, 9 October 2013 at 6:28pm BST

Joseph - The Rector of Stiffkey was mauled by a lion at Skegness but not eaten. I think you may be confusing him with young Albert Ramsbottom who was eaten by a lion at Blackpool, the same seaside resort where the Reverend Harold Davidson spent some years in a barrel, after he was deprived of his ministry, pleading his innocence - a modern day Diogenes.

Posted by Father David at Tuesday, 22 October 2013 at 4:49pm BST
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