Comments: IICSA hearings into the Anglican Church

It is very worrying that both IICSA and the Church of England have referred to "the Anglican Church in England and Wales" as though that were a thing.

Governance issues matter hugely to this enquiry. The Church of England and the Church in Wales are governed very differently and there is no corporate body called the Anglican Church that exists which can take responsibility for anything.

Posted by Kelvin Holdsworth at Saturday, 3 March 2018 at 10:01am GMT

After reading Kelvin’s comment, I see the phrase “other Anglican churches operating in England and Wales” as part of the defined term “the Anglican Church.”

Is it too much to hope that a lawyer-led inquiry will be more careful in its terms?

Posted by Jeremy at Saturday, 3 March 2018 at 12:27pm GMT

The inquiry has already spent some time negotiating the devolved structures of the Roman Catholic Benedictines. I am sure they will go into who had the power/authority/legal standing to act at various stages. But I am quite sure that there will be some reflection on the risks inherent in devolved structures too.

Posted by Mark Bennet at Saturday, 3 March 2018 at 3:02pm GMT

Mark Bennett refers to 'the risks inherent in devolved structures'in relation to the Church in Wales. Is this just another example of English superiority, assuming that the Church in Wales is a product of the Blair government's devolution programme?

We are a completely separate Church (and have been since we were kicked out of the Church of England in 1920, when we also lost all our historic endowments). We have our own synodical, legal, liturgical and doctrinal structures - and are nothing whatsoever to do with the Church of England, apart from being a sister Province of the Anglican Communion, along with Nigeria, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, TEC and the rest of them.

Hopefully, this means that Archbishop Welby and all the other C of E contributors will stick to their own jurisdiction, and not attempt to implicate the Church in Wales in their evidence to the IICSA.

Posted by Ken Davies at Tuesday, 6 March 2018 at 9:04am GMT

Ken Davies - I didn't mention the Church in Wales - that is not what I meant by "devolved". I referenced the Benedictines because the Inquiry took pains to learn about governance and the independent authority of separate communities, and was simply commenting that I expect they will do the same with what they call "The Anglican Church" - which, by the way, may not be a legal entity, but has some identity in the public mind. The substance here is not what the governance structures are, but whether they facilitate or hinder safeguarding, and therefore whether they need to be changed.

Posted by Mark Bennet at Wednesday, 7 March 2018 at 3:50pm GMT
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