Tuesday, 6 July 2004

Evangelical evisceration

On Monday, the Guardian carried a leader about the Dean of St Albans under this title.

Read it in full here.

The concluding paragraph says:

Dr John’s beliefs are reasonable, moderate, and right. To ask whether a good Christian can believe what he does is like asking whether the archbishop is an Anglican. But this is precisely the point that his opponents are trying to make. They don’t just think he’s wrong. They think that the church will be destroyed if it admits the possibility that he might be right. What they are trying to do is to put the matter beyond debate, and their chosen weapon may yet destroy the Church of England altogether. The institution is lumbering towards bankruptcy, and sustained entirely by voluntary contributions. Evangelical threats to withhold money from liberal bishops and their organisations will be popular. If enough take up this tactic, they will one day look around a wasteland and say that there is no such thing as a church: only individuals and their parishes.

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Oh my, the Guardian lectures us about what is right.

The truth is Johns is not orthodox. And any church that won’t stand up for orthodoxy sows its own distruction.

Evangelicals are doing the right thing in withholding money from liberalism that is already spiritually bankrupt.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at July 6, 2004 09:59 PM

I was disappointed to learn that I’m spiritually bankrupt, but, well, these things happen.

Mark, why don’t you stick to Ship of Fools. You’re really not helping your cause.

Posted by: Dave at July 6, 2004 11:33 PM

I am sick unto death of the evangelicals hijacking the mantle of “orthodoxy” for their partisan, socio-political views.

The neo-conservative evangelicals are combining the worst trends of Anglicanism (Puritan morality) with a shallow Calvinism that doesn’t even interpret Calvin that well.

So I’m “spiritually bankrupt” ? Maybe even a heretic ? I’d rather err on the side of heresy (simply holding a wrong opinion) than on the side of schism (rending the body of Christ) which is what the revisionist conservatives are doing…

Posted by: David Huff at July 7, 2004 03:38 PM

The ones who are rending the body of Christ are those who are cramming actively gay clergy down the Anglican Communion’s throat when the Primates have clearly asked them not to do so.

Not mention trashing the authority of scripture as several ECUSA leaders have done for years.

Posted by: WannabeAnglican at July 8, 2004 03:37 AM

If anyone has photographic evidence of a gay bishop being forced down the throat of the Anglican Communion, I will be happy to publish it.

Posted by: Andrew Brown at July 8, 2004 02:24 PM

Touche’ Andrew! All this language about “cramming down throats” makes you wonder about the Latency Theory—-it really does.

The Primates can clearly ask whatever they want to: the bottom line, canonically, is that “they’re not the boss of” ECUSA.

. . . whereas the General Convention, canonically, IS the boss of all Episcopalians. However, like the errant Kings of Israel, AAC/Network/whatever folk, not liking what they hear from YHWH’s prophets, have gone shopping for prophets “of other nations” whom they do like. Nothing new under the sun . . .

Posted by: J. Collins Fisher at July 11, 2004 08:46 PM